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Post by renshi1 on Aug 30, 2007 14:52:52 GMT -5
Fighting Question Answered; When we talk about fighting, you need to tell me at what age level you are asking about. I have found that the age level of students really determines how often we fight. Young Youth 1 students actually fight in my school the most, because they are to young to really memorize and care about kata techniques. So we fight more and with no worries because most of them lack the power to really hurt each other specially with fighting gear on. Next are Youth 2 kids that are much older and bigger,some have tremendous power, so we are careful who to put them with. Some are developing egos at this age and are embaressed to loose or get hit. Senseis have to be very careful in this area of karate, you can loose a student in a heartbeat if they get hurt or embaressed. Now adults have it all power ,speed, experience,and egos,because of these things the fights are more powerful and accurate. If you have ever been in a real fight and you get hurt, sometimes you dont realize it to the next day. These adult students need to go to work the next day, and if they can't go the spouses might get upset and you could lose students. Every age group would like to fight more. When you go out to eat you do not order the dessert first then the meal. The same goes with martial arts, you must train as if your fighting,earning the right to kumite(fight with other students). Renshi
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Post by samuraigirl on Oct 30, 2007 16:29:55 GMT -5
I have to say that fighting is defently needed more in the dojo.I was thinking about once a week for a fight night.I not sure when but I really do hope we have one .
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Post by ianmaxwell on Nov 2, 2007 12:59:45 GMT -5
For the youth 1/2 students I think that Renshi (or shihan now?) does it around once a week. But really understand where it is coming from with limiting it with adults. That kind of thing I know can get very tricky making it work so that nobody comes out the worse for a fight.
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Post by samuraigirl on Nov 23, 2007 15:24:43 GMT -5
I was just thinking that with fighting we are able to try new and better ways to handle and a attacker.Or in this case our fellow class mates.
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Post by amandathegreat on Nov 23, 2007 15:48:44 GMT -5
I agree with samuraigirl. Sparring definitely allows us opportunities for exploration of different techniques. Don't get me wrong, we do a lot of this in class with partners, but sparring gives you a clearer interpretation of the practicality of our favorite techniques. In other words, maybe we absolutely LOVE a technique in class, but we find that it is WAY too difficult to perform in a sparring-type situation. This gives us a chance to reconsider our ideas of what works and what looks good, but isn't functional.
Also, with the youth classes, students can develop their coordination and other basic motor skills. As this is essential to the younger students, I think the same concept applies to adults as well. The older a person gets, the more difficult a time he or she might have maintaining coordination and focus. Adults have a greater capacity to understand techniques, especially the ones we are exposed to in class, because many adult students can relate them back to their own life experiences.
I am by no means an authority on this topic, but I think controlled sparring is as important for the adults, if not more, than it is for the younger students.
Any thoughts??
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Post by ianmaxwell on Nov 23, 2007 16:04:06 GMT -5
interesting point, its the kind of thing where you have to strike a balance of the pros and cons. in terms of training, it can be almost more beneficial for adults, but then again the risks are greatly increased as renshi has illustrated in the topic post. Ultimately, I think maybe a bit more sparring in adults, but I think it is fine the way it is considering all the risks.
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Post by samuraigirl on Nov 24, 2007 20:04:06 GMT -5
I definitely agree.
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Post by Shihan on Dec 10, 2007 10:21:01 GMT -5
Yes all of you are right we definetly need more fighting, however recently we have been sparring more and sad to say a few adults decline. Kyoshi Herten says the same thing, you schedule a fight night and everyone shows up and then the next time you schedule a fight night no one shows that is how it goes in this business. Tell them in advance there is a fight nite coming up andthat will be your smallest class of the week. This happens in all schools, a handful of fighters that can't get enough and the rest are happy the way things are. Everyone likes memorized movements because you know what is going to happen but when things are free style like in fighting everything changes.
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Post by ianmaxwell on Dec 11, 2007 10:15:33 GMT -5
It is a truth, but a sad one indeed =( fighting in my opinion is your chance to really set to work everything you have learned in a kata. It is the ultimate test as far as im concerned, do you know that technique so well it will save you in a fight? Thats what you find out when cometh time for the sparring match. I havnt had a sparring match since youth 2, and I am really looking forward for when I can try out what I learned in adults, against adults.
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Post by tmnt on Dec 11, 2007 14:23:40 GMT -5
Fighting was great last night. To bad is was only Adam , Jessica , Haley, and I. You guys missed a great work out.
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